Open thoughts from the Rhino
Informations Systems
Published on June 30, 2004 By Red Rhino In Life Journals
I am a 25 year old Global Business degree seeking student who is majoring in Information Systems Management. Or is that the other way around, I'm not sure. I've made mistakes in my College career, and its been extended to about 7 years now. That joke David Spade and Chris Farley have in "Tommy Boy" relates to me. Farley: "Hey Richard, I graduated!" Spade: "And just a shade under a decade, good job." Farley: "Hey, lots of people goto school for 7 years." Spade: "Yeah, they're called doctors." Of course thats paraphrased from memory.

The computer job market is pretty stagnent right now. Even moreso then the rest of the the economy. I don't think the job market is going to get any better. When I started down my degree seeking way, computers were the big job market that everyone was training for because there was "BIG NEED." Now its oversaturated with these people and under increased competition from outsourcing and smarter systems. Of course there will always be a need for Computer Specialists, but I've come to the conclusion that the computer information system industry is going to shoot itself in the foot.

HTML, XHTML, XML, VHTML, Java, Javascript, Perl, ASP, PHP, VB, VBScript, C++, C#, C, and on and on. How can a person be proficient in all of this? I've taken 2 semesters of C++, a semester of VB, one that deals with HTML, and another that dealt with VBscript, ASP, Javascript, and XML. I'm far from proficient at any of these. I can understand it, but I couldn't put it to use without extensive help. And I'm nearly done with my College. As amazing as that sounds. I've decided to continue on and get a Masters degree and start taking some of those certifications. The masters is really to help me know more about the field, the certs are just resume padding.

I'm starting to think that the computer industry needs to regulate itself and come up with one or two standards for internet programming and web design. I know some people don't have my problem. They've been programming or making websites for years and years, and the degree is just a solidification of this fact. Most of my knowledge of the systems comes from the class and classroom projects. Its just not enough. If it stays like this, its going to get to a point where computer specialists will have to take the same amount of classes and years of training that Doctors do in order to get their real first job. They will have to know everything about everything and will be paid big time money to learn it.

If it stays as it is, I just want to stay in the industry long enough to make some bucks and start my own resturant or some other business in a field that isn't likely to be swept away by modernization or outsourcing.

Comments
on Jun 30, 2004
"HTML, XHTML, XML, VHTML, Java, Javascript, Perl, ASP, PHP, VB, VBScript, C++, C#, C, and on and on. How can a person be proficient in all of this?"

I used to be a Comptuer Science lecturer and now work as a senior software engineer. Now, that is different that information systems (or IT), but they both share this problem that you are worried about. The simple answer is that you probably can't be proficient in everything. What you learn as a CS major (or what you should learn) is to recognize methodologies and processes for accomplishing your goal. You learn similarities of tasks so that you can reuse your knowledge from previous accomplishments.

This means focusing less on the details of a language and more on the features it provides. Getting the details can be done by looking at a book. The important thing is to be able to examine a task and figure out what tools you can use (Javascript vs. Applets vs. Servlets vs. JSPs vs. EJBs ...) to best accomplish that goal.

I hope that helps a little, but keep in mind that everyone else is struggling with the same issues.
on Jun 30, 2004
"If it stays as it is, I just want to stay in the industry long enough to make some bucks and start my own resturant or some other business in a field that isn't likely to be swept away by modernization or outsourcing."

You could always go into government contracting. No fear of outsourcing and certainly little chance of modernization.